Will be used for 100-500 yd plinking and occasional deer hunting. This post contains affiliate links to help monetize this site. Ill be curious to see them for myself, but Ive heard good things. Vlad is an asshole in general who needs to go away. The Tikka T3x has a single-column detachable clip magazine made from a strong fiberglass-reinforced composition. I recall in a vid you talked about hunting with Mosin Nagans, the Russian 30.06! Know it is not a bolt action rifle, but how does the Henry Long Ranger stack up against these options? Sorry youtube is being such a pain in the ass to you as well. Thanks for the videos, they have been great! Boy, so many good 7 mags. Although, I think Vlad is optimistic on price, but you can find a deal. And outside chance of a Bergara HMR or sauer 100 Pantera. (Great videos by the way!!). I heard you mention a good handload that worked well with this 18\ barrel. Holy Moses, what an incredible rifle. I stewed over it for a minute but he made me answer, and I said to go with the Tikka T3x Lite. Its a 3-lug design with a decently large extractor and ejector and large locking lugs. I have found the majority of shooters have a herd mentality and always believe that the latest is the greatest. Had a question, What are your thoughts/opinion on the Wilson Combat AR10s? I would like something under 6# for $2000 or less with a carbon wrapped barrel. I understood going into it that it was a boutique and emotionally motivated cartridge choice, but the performance and build quality is excellent. I have not seen a semi-auto in 6.5 PRC, should I wait? Hi Jim, Best purchase I ever made. I cannot give a better example than that. They are built in the same factory where they produce Mauser and Blaser rifles (all owned by the same company), so I guess quality shouldnt be an issue but unlike Mausers and Blasers, these rifles are far less expensive. Tikka T3X or Franchi Momentum Elite - ALDEER.COM Aldeer.com Copyright 2001-2022 Aldeer LLP. Whats the pros and cons in your opinion? I\ve hunted since high school age but always small game/birds. Looking at a Seekins Havak in 300 PRC. Surprised you didnt mention anything about the Sako 85. Appreciate the comment. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). Never fired, sold it for 600). Just curious, have you had a chance to review the Benelli Lupo. Also, what about the Bergara MG Lite with their proprietary carbon barrel? Heres a link to that rifle in .30-06. I didnt see a Bergara in your list. Its hard to find info anywhere on it. There lies my hole and question to you. Browning X-Bolt Pro I like the X-Bolt Pro. I would really like one in one of the 7mm flavors. After reading you, I am going to use them now for hunting. Sorry its been so long since I have followed up on this, but didnt want to post on this rifle till I had some time with it and straightened out a problem Ive been having with my scope. I still love wood stocks. I know they are two different price points, but Id love to see a side by side comparison between the 2020 Waypoint and the Savage 110 Ultra Lite. It just does everything reasonably well. Is the quality that good? And the thought of upgrades on a new rifle seems stupid to me. A fine rifle like this is perfect for beating to shit while you learn the other basics. I have a Sears gun with an FN Action and a deluxe hand checkered walnut stock (real hand checkering not junk machine cut checkering) in .270 caliber and I paid $300 for it used. I\m looking for a good \all around\ big game hunting rifle (elk, whitetail/mule deer, and antelope mostly). I own 30-06, i own a 300 win mag , now never pull anything out but the 300 win mag , it is a Browning A bolt with the belly clip , has the sweet spot muzzle break ,that takes care of half of the recoil and have the Remington butt pad . Ive seen your comments that fierce rifles have poor fit and finish and that customer service is also poor. In this price range, this rifle appears to be a very good value. Not impressed with the plastic trigger guard also because I have broken one on a different rifle and it was a pain in the rear to source. that blew my mind that an OOB rifle would have that much contact. In case anyone is wondering and didnt click the link, its available in 6.5Creedmore. Is it like the other cheap stocks you mentioned The only downside I see is the weight at 7 plus pounds if your looking for a ultralight mountain rig. Why I Picked These Three Rifles Over the Competition. As a side note, I have a Sako 85 from Cabelas. First of all, LOVE all of your video reviews !! Yes, it shipped with a knurled thread protector but I immediately lost it when I slapped my Dead Air Sandman Ti on. I have shot the Impulse and wasnt impressed. I do like the 300wm type power but its been a challenge researching top recommendations. FRANCHI MOMENTUM ELITE 6.5 CREEDMOOR 24" 3RD BOLT RIFLE - REALTREE EXCAPE / BURNT BRONZE True Price: $ 813.69. Travis Skurray from Australia. Assuming a commercially-available cartridge (I\m leaning towards .30-06 Springfield), how would the you stack the two up? Never worried much about how my rifle looked either before or after the hunt. Model 70s and tons and tons of various 98 Mauser rifles ranging from converted low cost military guns to commercial Mausers that cost thousands. It feels almost as rigid as concrete, and thats a good thing. I was all ready to order the Fierce but I see your post above and now I am on the fence. The controlled-round feed action is great. You might also consider a more traditional 7 Rem Mag or .30-06. I was considering the Sig Cross, but the safe selector issue concerns me. Sako has major problems with there stocks , I have owned several finnlight 85s and the stock will get sticky , Its not if its when , Sako will not do anything about this issue , They blame it on det in insect spray , I had one still in the box that got sticky and they didnt have an answer for that , You can read about this issue online its everywhere , Browning took care of this problem when they had this issue , I will never buy another sako for this reason , Do your research before buying one. My mossberg patriot shoots like a custom rifle. But the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell , quoteBut the biggest difference is that Franchi is hoping to sell rifles, and theyll sell 90, 6.5 Creeds for every 6.555 they sell quote. Thanks. I have been taking in everyone of ur vids I can find and sincerely appreciate your work and am interested in your take on the Seekins product? Jim, Is the Sako worth the that premium price though? Second is the on top the receiver scope mounts are based on Savage Accutrigger not Remington. Great review Its typically priced around $950, but for $100 extra dollars over the $850 budget, you get an adjustable mini chassis. Am I wrong in my logic? Hunting rifles per say but not many of the new techno rifles. I reload, so Ive been able to work on the load. In this price range, manufacturers use very loose tolerances and have very poor quality control, so Im careful what I recommend. The action is butter smooth and the stock has a palm swell the sold me when I first picked the gun up. I dont know even they even sell it anymore but about 10-15 years ago my first .308 was a mossberg ATR. So if you are shooting 300 win mag, will it throw inaccurate shots on the 3rd shot (or even the 2nd)? Cannot find the Federal rounds anymore so Shooting the Hornady Precision Hunter 110s now. Ultimately it still looks and feels like an inexpensive, plastic stock that youd expect to find on a budget hunting rifle. Swelled and checkered grip areas are molded into both sides of the stock over the internal magazine and again at the beginning of the forearm section. And youre right about the cost of Weatherby ammo. have since restocked it with a B&C M40, and will use it for long range targets and steel. With a Leupold VX-2 3-9x40 scope mounted on Leupold dual dovetail rings and loaded with a maximum of five rounds of ammunition, the Momentum I tested weighed almost exactly eight poundslight enough to carry on long hikes through steep country but not unpleasant to shoot. It has the Accufit stock, but not the Accustock with the aluminum rail system. Thanks for such a speedy response. I do have a question that I hope you will address. So, if those ones should be avoided, what rifles SHOULD hunters consider? However, as Ive owned the Sig Cross for almost a year now, Im surprised by how frequently its the gun I reach for in the safe. Ruger precision is really heavy for hunting, but a cool rifle. The barrel is cold hammer forged with rifling like the Sako (Tikka). I like the Bergara B-14 ridge. The Momentum loved Armscors 168 grain FMJs, though. Agreed on the MarkV. The narrow width put my eye behind the scope nicely but also leaves enough fudge factor for owners who will add an aftermarket cheek piece or wrap. If a close friend asked me what hunting rifle to buy at each price point, these would be my recommendations: If you dont want to read this entire post, jump to the section for rifles in your budget. Loved seeing some rifles I hadnt seen vids on with the Sako and getting your full thoughts. With them being two different price points, Id be interested in your thoughts on spending the extra amount on the waypoint. Im looking at my first hunter and precision rifle that I can take to the range once a month and go on 2 or 3 hunting trips per year (pig/deer) mostly in California or surrounding states. Franchi Momentum All-Terrain Elite .223 Rem 18" 1:8" Bbl TrueTimber Strata/Midnight Bronze 10+1 Rifle 41751. Surprisingly accurate. Hold on to it. Have you fired the Sako 85 Finnlight? And have heard mostly good things on it, so I kinda think it was mostly a caliber issue for that gun. Gun #: 999725884. It is very expensive. Thanks. Copyright 2000-2023 24hourcampfire.com, Inc. All Rights Reserved. Can't see enough difference to make a difference. All things equal Jim, between the Savage 110 Ultralight and the Weatherby Mark V which would you pick for accuracy? If you had a choice between XBolt Pro & Dako finnlight 85 in 300wm what one would you choose. My 2 favorite calibers are 270( I have 6 of them) and 300H&H ( one pre 64 Winchester Model 70 and one Cooper). Feeler gauges became shims for my lathe and mill. That\s not a total game changert now there are other choices. I am going to buy one last hunting rifle eventually in 7mm or 7 PRC so I am watching CVA XT and Weatherby. I just cant keep myself from grabbing the Sig Cross. Simply depress the rear of it while sliding the bolt out the back of the receiver. enything under 2k. Plus, it uses an old-school sporter stock that just isnt what todays long-range shooter is looking for. Highly recommended. What do you think of the Bergara B14 HMR? Hi Jim, Not much going on here, really, but its simple and it works. The sub-$500 version of the CVA Cascade comes with just blued steel. Christensen Ridgeline So many people have asked me to review one, and I just cant justify spending $2,000 on one because Ive heard so many reports of inconsistent manufacturing quality. Same for Austria and Glock. November 29, 2018 By Steve Gash. Unfortunately now I see it for $1700. I was unaware of the QC issues with the Cross. Id like to see how the Sauer 100 performs. Made in Italy? A lot of older rifles are very superior to these entry level rifles. To wit: 1. I purchased a Stockys carbon stock for my Vanguard 6.5 PRC Meateater rifle and was able to shoot a suppressed 5 shot group at 100 yards that measured under 1/2 moa. For the record the cheapest gun Ive ever owned is a TC compass in 6.5 Creedmoor and it has shot sub MOA with most factory offerings from day one and consistently shoots sub 1/2 moa with handloads. Solid brass bullet ,which I really like. Lets weed out a few rifles I DONT recommend first. Also 243win, 270 win, 300 win mag and 30-06. 2023 Backfire LLC, a limited liability company headquartered in Utah, USA. Just hasnt been available. Im not the person I asked the question but I am also looking at one chambered and 308 and another shop down the road has a 30-06. There was getting to the point where I found I needed better but thats not how the first few years took off. Jim, I think you misspoke about the Ultralite. Hi Jim love your content I was wondering if you had a chance to fire a Benelli lupo I own one and love it also have a Tikka tac t3x a Daniel Defense delta 5 pro a accuracy International at. I love it. Have you had any experience with the new fierce rage? love the mauser style trigger guard/magazine. Jim. Yes its more than that modern piece of shit for $300 but I have found other used Mauser sporters including commercially made ones in the $300 dollar range not once but many , many times. Im looking for ANY rifle with a floor plate, metal, and wood but the only two I find are model 70, and browning. So not sure what went wrong with the patriot, and I dont really use the ATR except for friends to use but it is a hell of an accurate rifle. Theres also no shortage of cartridges that send a 6.5mm bullet at much higher velocities than the Swede so I have to assume by your metric those are all superior to the Swede? I have been looking at the 6.8 western. Went on my first hunt (elk) this October. What do you think of the French after some time? The reason I put the CVA Cascade above the Ruger American is: (1) It has a better action with more reliable feeding, (2) Its stock is more rigid, (3) It doesnt have a super loud safety like the Ruger American, which I found to be tricky to hunt with. Sure, its the same action and barrel, but its dressed up completely differently, and I think it changes the gun significantly. Ruger Americans are fantastic. Id pick the CVA Cascade from that group. I recommend getting this Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor if youll be hunting deer-sized game (or smaller than deer), want to have tons of inexpensive ammo options, and if youll also be using it for target shooting. It tames the recoil of this 6.6-pound rifle extremely well. I have been considering the Winchester xpr spotter (walnut stock) in 308 Win. Definitely the most accurate rifle I have owned right out of the box. Then I bought an Alaskan 338 Win Mag Laminate in Stainless. You mentioned the cheap filling stock. Will the new/faster twist rates make a difference to users? On the flip side, a 60-degree throw is often not always, but usually stiffer, and this was the case here. Im in the market for my very first rifle and I have been eying up the Weatherby Vanguard ever since I saw you pick it. Combing the interwebs just now I see other reviews reporting groups from 0.40 to 2 MOA depending on caliber and ammunition brand/load. Hey Jim, I think you did a good job in your review of 25 hunting rifles at various price points. I might add when I got back to the car even with all that grease and oil on my gun I still sprayed it down with WD40 and again when I got it home and dried everything off. can you give me your thoughts on Been following your channel for a few years and have loved all the reviews. I would love a 300 Win Mag. I was pretty confident in the 110 Ultralight that I found locally for a hair under $1000 but your updates here are making me rethink that. Best known for making value-priced shotguns, Franchi may well have taken a leap of faith by entering the highly competitive centrefire market. Remember the cheap skates that passed up Colt Pythons when they were only $260 bucks and now are 10 times that. And based on my limited sample size, this budget rifle seems to prefer budget ammo. And contrary to most German rifles today, the barrel is threaded into the reciever (not heat shrunk). One thing I always know I need in any rifle, hunting or range, is accuracy. Great to see honest reviews that are very entertaining hope to see many more. I use Swaro and Zeiss optics and i use moderators on all of mine. The trouble Im having wracking my brain over is caliber. Thanks for your time Jim, love the channel! Can Italian go to a local gun store and buy one (or any firearm) without a government license or permission? Probably going to be the Waypoint. I wanted to get a Bolt Action rifle for hunting and also had always wanted an AR style rifle too. BTW unless youre reloading, the vast majority of factory 6.5 Creedmoor is quite a bit faster than the same projectile in 6.555. Since recording the review of the Sig Cross, my copy of the gun did develop the issue with the safety where it doesnt quite go to the correct position. Trigger pull is most critical for me. Im sure the leupold would be better, but for a 700 dollar difference, Ill see how I like the Burris. These areas are designed to provide purchase and ergonomic grip options for different shooting positions and styles, such as the five seen above. x bolt is about 150 or more expensive. You mentioned in your latest live video that youre off the Savage Ultralight these days. I am looking for a new rifle, and am looking at the Franchi Momentum Elite, was looking for any input by those of you that have one. There are a few really nice ergonomic details that Franchi has implemented on their stocks. I havent seen you review any CZ rifle, any cause un particular? Never shot 6.5 but all I hear are good things whats your opinion. I knew an unknown secret that they did not know, its called grease and oil. It has the accufit system but they did not put it in that rifle I assume its to save weight. Great deal. Along with it is 2-position safety that . Im holding my breath for the comments section on this post. Interested in loading this cartridge. I really enjoy your reviews and opinions. American Hunter's first reports of it indicated excellent fit and function and accuracy. Wish you wouldve done a review on Mauser 18 or sauer 100 as I became interested in those two guns and did ultimately pick up a Mauser this year based on some other reviews. May 7, 2018. These are deal breakers. Also, it works great if you quickly manhandle the action. Two of them shoot 270s and one in 25-06. Really enjoy reading your reviews and opinions! Im down to the Savage 110 Ultralite and the Christensen Ridgeline. Would love to see your review on the Australian built Lithgow if you havent fired one yet I am sure you will be blown away by it in build quality, accuracy and value considering we are paying $900 for rifles worth $350 in America. The muzzle break sends recoil back into the rifle which breaks cheap scopes . The pistol grip is thicker than on many similar stocks, which I appreciate a lot, but at the same time a little more palm swell wouldnt hurt. Customization * * * * Franchi designs some very good scatter guns, and this is their first rifle attempt. Keep them coming! A friend of mine was trying to talk me into a Christensen arms Ridgeline FFT but from what you said about their QC in manufacturing I\m not sure I want to risk it. Its very heavy, the straight pull was difficult to work with and made a few of my shots not go off because I didnt quite push it ALL the way forward. Any suggestions would be appreciated. In the case of the .308 Winchester tested here, its a 22-inch, cold hammer forged barrel with U.S.-standard 5/8-24 threads. They come in the same price bracket as Tikka rifles but from what I have read, unlike the popular T3X rifles, Sauer 100 rifles Im surprised it didnt make the list. Review: Franchi Momentum .308 Winchester. 80lbs maybe. DK. I am looking at loading with heavier grain bullets such as the Berger 30 cal 215 Hybrid or Berger 7mm 180 or 195 Grain bullets. Im a lefty that has to shoot cross over right handed bolts. Its a Howa 1500 action in their own pretty cool stock. Is it felt more? I'm looking at it in 300 win mag. In front of the recoil pad, on the bottom of the Momentums shoulder stock, are two molded-in features: a hand groove grip area for holding the stock with ones support hand while shooting from a rest, and a recessed sling swivel mount. Like you I love the idea of the cerakote on it and I think a stiffer stock lends itself to shooters well. Id go with the Sako in that case. Its like comparing a Kia against a BMW. when buying a boltaction rifle to be used for hunting,do you prefer a safety that locks the bolt down,or one that allows you to work the action.I prefer the type that locks the bolt. I would definitely buy the Winchester XPR SR version, which means suppressor ready, so you get a threaded barrel. I was looking at the Tikka for a while but Im not crazy about the slower twist in .30-06. No doubt, it has s lot to offer. Regardless, they should have went with a flush mount magazine like the Axis which, if I may add sells new for a third of the Momentums MSRP in my part of the world. What is your opinion on Gunwerks? The stock looks like a varmint/tactical/long range/hunting compromise, and may do those thing well, its just not what I was looking for. Id also like to hear more about the threading on the various barrels and if they are suitable for use with a suppressor i.e. I would also love a video on the Winchester model 70 extreme weather! Im extremely satisfied with this rifle, for a hunting rifle. I loved the way it shot and felt. guns.com Buy. The stock is cheesy feeling, but nicely shaped and rigid. I did achieve the box numbers through hand loading and Magpro powder for the 170 Bergers and Staball 6.5 for the 129 lrx. Hey Jim, I think your doing an amazing job on bringing us unbiased information all hunting gear not just rifles. (Live in northern Alberta.) I also own a Savage 110 Ultralite in 6.5 PRC- fantastic accuracy, but I just could not warm up to the plasticy stock. How us that helping? The trigger is adjustable like the Tikka. Newer is not always better. Ive been pouring over your channels videos, and a lot of Ron Spomers content (as well as a few others for the past months). Its decent, but if you can possibly squeeze another $100 into your budget to get a version with Cerakote, get the CRKT version as itll be more durable in the woods. I just want an all around deer rifle that is easy to find ammo for. I have mostly x bolt now and really like them but dont think onyx chassis is made for brownings so thinking the tikka t3x but wanted your opinion. All in 7mm Rem Mag of course . You never mentioned. Launched on the March 2018 cover of Guns & Ammo, the Momentum was actually Franchi's first rifle. Love your reviews. It would also handle bigger calibers MUCH better than the Cross. The stock is not very rigid, the butt pad is too stiff, and the stock geometry is only acceptable. The Weatherby Vanguard threaded, Bergara B14, and Howa Carbon Stalker are all models Im researching more to try to come to a definitive decision. One might think that in this price range, youd have a multitude of choices, but in my opinion, there are really only three hunting rifles Id consider. Franchi Momentum 6.5 Creedmoor 24" Flat Dark Earth Bolt-Action Rifle 41512. Do you think this is normal business practice ? If you want to hunt larger game like elk, then Id recommend getting the same rifle in .30-06 Springfield. Slim Fit Leather Jackets brings this iconic jacket from animation to reality, especially for all the fans of this video game. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Then you can go pick up in your local store in just a couple days and do the government paperwork and walk away with it. From afar it looks pretty standard, but it does set itself apart in a few ways. Its like the girl you almost dated because you were such good friends and got along with great, but just never could fall in love with. Overall * * * * See also Gluck. I can be an affiliate for just about any gun brand, so it doesnt impact my recommendations. Franchi, a 150-year-old shotgun manufacturer, clearly felt it was high time an affordable Italian hunting rifle hit U.S. shores.
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