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Your comment could not be farther than the truth! She said that shes no fan of Forensic Files and that the show had many misrepresentations about her case and that shed heard ForensicFilesNow.com mixed up some facts as well. I accept there are a couple of remarks which can be seen that way but they are in direct response to those whove been offensive in the first place. Rorrers defenders remind me of a case in my home town There was a killer who confessed, was caught on video committing the murder and was seen committing the crime by an eye witness. What evidence is there she actually left the state? And then in their zealous efforts to show their ire, feel the need to suggest anyone who supports her is deluded.. If you subscribe to Hulu and upgrade to Starz (theres a free one-week trial offer), you can stream the Wrong Man episodes about Patricia Rorrer. Some lawyers call microscopic hair analysis junk science that today wouldnt qualify as evidence in a trial like Rorrers. Prosecutors say a 911 call from the night of the murders proves that Said is guilty. Why would it be an irony for a person to express his opinion? One of the hairs had magically developed root material to enable that. I comment on these forums because they are the only places offering the opportunity to, hopefully, bring awareness to those whore unfamiliar with this case and her unfair plight. She is a tough one, Sheriff Gerald Hege would later tell the Morning Call in a June 29, 1997 interview. Although I would have liked it to be death! Sticking to a promise he made before the pair pleaded guilty, the Republican governor announced Tuesday that Mark and Patricia McCloskey were among 12 people granted pardons on Friday. "Most of the community feels bad for the child To see that in the United States bugs me. Were suppose to ignore the actual forensic evidence and forensic opinions because we were told that a cop overheard her claiming she confessed? If not, how could Andrew have obtained samples of Patricias hair if they apparently didnt meet up in person after Andrews marriage? The state police dropped him as a suspect. Stable situation. Cop defends accused. What did the ME report as to the age of the baby? I had five children to take care of and it was costing me so much money to travel two hours from Riverside to Los Angeles and sit in court all day, Patricia said. Im dying. When police traveled to North Carolina to interview Patricia about the murders of Joann and Alex, she said that on the day of the homicides, she had visited a feed store, a tanning salon, and a country music club. Its his hair (dirty blond and roughly 8 inches in length) that was found in Joanns hand. Youre clutching at straws Im afraid. Im new to the case, but there seems to be a lot of reasonable doubt. Later, they both worked 12-hour graveyard shifts at a textile factory. Most of your comment absolutely astonishes me. SHE IS NOT GUILTY OF THESE CRIMES. I think we need to realize that each dollar we spend or don't spend could have a serious impact on our society and our safety.". In pleading guilty, Islam Said admitted that evidence proved he committed the crimes charged in the superseding indictment filed in November 2020. Microconidia DNA, as long as the strand is one inch long they can pull the DNA from that. After a very early failed marriage, the 24-year-old Joann scored a new husband in Andrew Katrinak, 38, whom she met at a club. I am sorry it ever happened at all.". Probably by the jeans and the boots. Even after 12 years of frustration and dead-ends, the pursuit for their killer never ceased, Spivey said in a statement. Together they had a baby girl, Nicole. Its an opinion learnt from a well-researched book, from documentaries which show and mention a great deal of facts and evidence which was never brought up at her trial. Dont even think about arguing with me until they DNA test that hair and the broken fingernail found on her body; Ill just laugh at you. Any subsequent proof emerging and then revealed in a book or documentary is surely something that should be taken seriously and investigated if necessary. Im sorry Sally, I know you want someone to blame for the death of your daughter and grandson, but the person who actually killed her is serving a life sentence in another facility in Pennsylvania. There is no justice for your loved ones when the wrong person is paying for the crime. She likely SUFFOCATED him to get revenge on the babys father who was planning on leaving her. (McIntyre said that Egan ignored Traupman because he was a nut who said that the man he saw arguing with the woman in a car was Hispanic but wearing a fake mustache and a toupee. You started slinging insults, then got insulted when slung back. 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THESE COPS ARE WRONG AND THEY ALL SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOR WHAT THEY DID TO PATRICA, PUTTING HER AWAY FOR LIFE FOR SOMETHING SHE DID NOT DO. Or the ME and the entomologist that explained how impossible it would be for that baby and mother to be out there for four months, deceased at that, and still be as intact as they were, and the fact that the baby was double the size of a three month old child. They did this case on Reasonable Doubt last night. Patricias accusers theorized that she resented Joanns domestic bliss with the tall, athletic Andrew Katrinak. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. This response of yours neatly sums up your dogmatic view of her guilt despite so much evidence to the contrary. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. Police couldnt determine whether the baby died of exposure or suffocation. Allen Prue maintains that he is innocent, and he has appealed his conviction to the Vermont Supreme Court. The fact that her jeans were unbuttoned and unzipped. Judges may have the discretion to reduce a felony in a wobbler case to a misdemeanor. But unfortunately other than God only two people know exactly what really happened and one is not alive. And I have absolutely no sympathy. How about the mix up with the hair and the fact that it was not forensically tested (outside of the one man who compared the hairs through naked eye). Thats because they knew it was a stretch to make anyone believe she would still be so enraged a week and a day later that she jumped into a van and drove 550 miles to kill a woman and baby she never met. It was winter which are cold in PA and would slow down decomposition and minimize insect activity although you are correct about the rodentswhy were there none? Its never been made clear. Amina was 18 years old and was shot two times and Sarah was 17 you dont want to fall off and hurt your oversized ego. They noted houses near the murder scene would have heard a gunshot in December, when no farm equipment is making noise, and question why the murderer didnt just kill Joann inside her house instead of risking being seen in public in her car. Oh my God. Shes extremely, extremely happy with the baby. She believed she was chosen as one of Gods 144,000 bond servants on earth, and gave up all her other hobbies, such as dancing, to devote her life to spreading the word of God. WebThe prosecution said Patricia wanted Jeromes $30,000 life insurance policy. Contact Elizabeth Murray at 651-4835 or emurray@freepressmedia.com. I agree. The fact that there is LITERALLY NO EVIDENCE that Patricia was actually obsessed with Andy; they spoke as friends maybe twice a year. Strands of the accuseds dyed-blond hair at two crime scenes proved it. If there was more talk about finding this .22 mm gun then that would solve all of this speculation. I have not SEEN this report that says no root found is there a picture of it online somewhere? Liesbeth Powers/The I am reliably informed they took SIX hours, not TWO as stated in my comment. It might have said no root but could have been wrong. She was the one that left Andy! These two offenses were classified as felonies when they should have been only misdemeanors, since the property stolen was valued under $400. Nailed? We can help by getting the word out, by bringing a lot more support to a case that is so insanely bizarre, said Geri Silva. Patricia defaulted on her mortgage and then returned to North Carolina, where she eventually moved in with a boyfriend named Brian Ward. Did Patricia ever take a lie detector test? Help, the younger sister could be heard crying on a 911 recording. Agree with all you say but theres so much more involving incompetence, corruption, evidence tampering and then witnesses, in Rorrers favour, who were not disclosed to her defence her trial (something they were legally obliged to do). Im sorry for the distress this awful business must have caused. She also will never get to see them get married. Phone records confirmed Patricia placed the earlier call from North Carolina, not Pennsylvania. . This is the most ridiculous take ever! She has always denied this allegation and says that both she and Lawrence Slaughter are innocent. Yaser Abdel Said, 63, was arrested Wednesday by agents in the small town of Justin, about 36 miles northwest of Dallas, officials said. Patricia is a evil monster. Pal stays true. There was a blood-stained fingernail and hair found on the victims body, and even though (in Keith Morrisons Dateline documentary) the Asst. Its totally irrelevant. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree ALL IT THEN BECOMES IS A SOURCE OF INACCURACIES AND SPECULATION, WHICH ONLY SERVES TO BOLSTER THOSE WITH THAT MENTALITY AND PERPETUATE THE LACK OF TRUTH. She didnt kill those two boys and TX knows, but they made too much noise about it, hence this is probably the real reason that Darlie hasnt been put to death 24-25 yrs later. In fact it clearly shows how short you are on all the details surrounding this case. Prosecutors said Said, a native of Egypt, was angry that his daughters were dating and that the boys were not Muslim. You took my family all in one night," she said. All rights reserved. There was a push for a mistrial, but a 16-year prison sentence was negotiated instead. But I agree with a recent comment.. Why not do a paternity case so just that is done and out of the way. The author that wrote the book on the Rutier case donates all the funds from that book to freeing Darlie Routier because the jury wasnt shown a lot of evidence of the medical issues Darlie suffered. I find it weird that youre going to kill a woman just because she hung up on you and maybe tell you some shitty world because you call like an ex. He was captured in August and is in state custody. Owens said Said made her a weak woman but that those days are over. Great catch. Andrew mentioned to police that his former live-in girlfriend Patricia Rorrer once managed a horse stable two miles from the bodies location and would have been familiar with the riding trails close to the murder scene. Why not question some of this evidence? I have never seen anything this egregious in all my years.. Anyway, there are thousands of people who differ from that belief, that is why there is so much controversy surrounding this case, and that is why there have been numerous convicted people in the past whove been exonerated on appeal. The womans disappearance became a missing person case with the Ross Township Police Department that sat on the shelf, lacking progress, for decades. Patricia Kopta appears in two photos, spaced some 31 years apart, after being discovered alive in Puerto Rico after being declared dead. Follow her on Twitter at www.twitter.com/LizMurraySMC. Exactly It then makes light of the fact that the car in which the (incriminating) hairs were found was absent of any blood. She was so obsessed with Andy that she called him non-stop, multiple times a day, right? Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000, while Mark admitted to misdemeanor fourth-degree Entries in Patricia Prue's journal included vague descriptions of a joint fantasy that she and Allen Prue shared and were looking to fulfill. Amina two bullets in the heart.". My husband passed away of a broken heart, Sarah OConnor said on the Montel Williams Show in 2001. Have a tip we should know? John If you feel it so necessary to post a comment, please at least try to keep it original, because theres nothing sensible with your juvenile attempt using my words. You ought to acquaint yourself thoroughly with the case and not allow yourself to get any further elevated on your high horse. I've been thinking about them the last two weeks every morning when I wake up and close my eyes," she said. A Florida mother, who allegedly lied to police that her son with autism was abducted by two black men, was charged with the child's murder, police said. Yassein Said, 59, is guilty of conspiring to hide his older brother, Yaser Said, as authorities sought him in connection with the New Years Day slayings. Trash-talking ex. Owens and her sister, Connie Moggio, entered the courtroom together. How do you explain the authorities finding .22mm shell casings at her home during the search warrant. I hope she suffers and goes insane from loneliness. They also raised concerns about what they considered a lack of evidence, including the lack of fingerprints and eyewitness reports the place Said at the crime scene. She was born on Jan. 24, 1964, in eastern Pennsylvania and moved back and forth between there and Davidson County, North Carolina. They allege that the North Carolina resident stealthily drove 500 miles to Pennsylvania and killed out of a sense of deadly indignation. Yaser Said is accused of killing his two teenage daughters Amina and Sarah in 2008. How would an intruder find it? Why would somebody tell you, theyre going to fry me, if they didnt do it? Jarrett told Wrong Man. Let me ask youWhy do most of those who post adverse and hateful comments feel the need to? in journalism from the University of Southern California. An infant was lying face down on her stomach. Those who knew Joann pointed out that she didnt like to drive in reverse and would have never parked that way. Quote if I had known I would get caught, I would never have brought you into this world. Pat to Nicole her daughter. Lieutenant Christopher Coble and Sergeant Suzanne Pearson would later testify that Patricia cried and apologized to 18-month-old Nicole, telling the baby, Im sorry for doing this to you and lamenting to the officers that she would never see little Nicole again. Your somewhat convoluted explanation of discuss and express opinion, seems to ramble on and on without any logic or reason. Most of all, Patricia said, she would like a rematch with prosecutor Michael McIntyre. That phone call came in on December 7, 1994. It was Patricias hair no question. MY STATE OF MIND is based on factual information. So would judge and jury say. "You can keep those evil eyes glaring just glare away because this is going to be the last time that you see me.". Nobody said bodies were intact. During the tour Alfey was able to slip away into a room that was made for a little boy. Just one example. 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And its argued that it has been and dismissed as insignificant or irrelevant. WebPatricia Lynne Rorrer made for a good suspect. The organization purports that if there were awards for distorted reporting, the Morning Callwould win high honors.. Saphira Wolf forgive me, but I dont have the time, or wish, to respond to idiotic comments. Police slowly built a case against Patricia. The reason Interpol was involved is because all three had different European citizens, as a result of which it was very difficult to follow the thread of the event. And your contention that you (me) as ONE person are wrong, let me say that while you seem to be determined in singling me out as someone whos opinion is one against the rest, is hopelessly exaggerated. WOW JUST WOW PEOPLE ARE SO BLIND BY ALL THIS. Ls HUe7C22R>_%m~e5?h ST. JOHNSBURY A three-year nightmare for the loved ones of Melissa Jenkins is one step closer to ending. And why would the judge not let the information about Jerome being a homosexual be known to the jury.. Its a video on Utube Judges For Justice featuring her case. CHOOSE1s Three Strikes Reform Act needs 500,000 signatures by July 17 to make the November ballot, CHOOSE1 files new initiative to reform Californias Three Strikes law, The First Friday doc premieres this week at the New Parkway. RR, Watch the Forensic Files episode on YouTube. It could be coincidence, but I really doubt it. I dont think she was ever scared until we put the cuffs on her.. I have all her moms and her jewelry that was given to me when my mom passed away. Wheres the evidence that Patty was obsessed with Andy? The case was eventually abandoned. It would appear you are reading all sorts of interpretations into my comments especially that I have a fragile ego, dented by others whove responded to me! His hair (back in 94-95) was dirty blonde and roughly 8 inches long. As to her duration on death row, no: inference cannot be made as to her guilt as theres a woman with about the same time (Holberg) and another with almost as much. Allen Prue told police he and his wife "wanted somebody they could play with," Caledonia County State's Attorney Lisa Warren has said. And Patricia wasnt all edges. I do. And yikes, he discovered someone had cut one of the houses phone lines and pried the hinge on the basement door. Well, at least you managed some sense there when you say that, especially when you take into account the amount of evidence and witnesses which were withheld from the Defence and what appears to be a clear case of evidence-tampering. The police report misspells his name (Troutman) and doesnt include his address, suggesting authorities didnt want anyone to track him down, according to Patricias side. You say by definition! Thats my life.. Theyre just not willing to investigate/research as to the truth. More hairs there. The hearing of the motion for reduction of felony to misdemeanor will be held Tuesday, Oct. 11, at 1:30 p.m. in the Riverside Courthouse at 4050 Main St. in Department 42. Id wanna be done with that shite quick too.. meh what do I know! pTq r |G.H=IO-I7`,|&m2tj1Lo;{~}squ_~zpMq7 According to court documents, Patricia Owens, the victims mother and Saids former wife, told authorities that her son and Yaser Saids brothers indicated support for the killings and were not cooperative with law enforcement. Both sides agree Joann hung up on Patricia. The Charley Project offers details of the womans life before she went missing: She walked throughout the city, approaching strangers and telling them shed had a vision of the Virgin Mary and the world was about to end. This time, not surprisingly, the FBI did achieve a match. That's counting the nine bullets you put in Sarah. I wonder, did they ever perform a DNA test on the baby, to verify paternity? Patricia and her defense team denied that allegation and said she owned her home, had no financial So where they alive somewhere, and if so how could of Patricia, who was questioned, with not one mark on her kill them? There are a number of issues in the case, Kelley said in a letter to his associate, Christopher Darden, including the competency of counsel, prosecutorial misconduct and, of course, compelling legal error by the court.. Nataly Keomoungkhoun, Engagement/Breaking News reporter. Its true that women were more idiots than about men, they had the impression that if they caught a fool to take them as wives, they would settle for life, even today we see that but more diluted, still an exaggerated reason for murder. One more thing acquire ALL the facts about this case If you can read. "As horrible as Ms. Jenkins death was, it should stand for something," Marsicovetere said. What a contrived case! . Sadly, those who defend Rorrer do not want to be confused by the truth. He had an attractive new wife and beautiful baby boy. Search it out and check for yourself. Phone records dont lie.) A lot of these documentaries feature most of the theories suggested by the cops and prosecution which were most damaging to her case, but not a single person to substantiate Rorrers side, or to challenge their versions. My biggest issue is the day the phone call came in, and the fact that the prosecutor deliberately misrepresented the facts. Plus, two men, her babys father and his friend, testified they saw Patricia at the line-dancing club the night of the homicide. "You deserve to die now, not in prison. State police and the Philadelphia division of the FBI appealed to the public for leads. Not everything is a conspiracy. All this talk about hairs and other DNA just seems to keep deflecting away from the gun itself. However, while sticking solely to the Rorrer case, the issue of the husbands alibi is very much open to doubt if one takes into consideration what the documentary, STARZ-The Wrong Man (in two parts) has revealed. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. She is the one who tricked them, first by Pfeiffer and Burke claimed that police Sgt. DALLAS, Texas - A Dallas jury unanimously found Yaser Said guilty of killing his two teen daughters on Tuesday. Patricia McCloskey, who menaced the marching crowd with her finger on the trigger of a handgun, pleaded guilty to misdemeanor harassment and was ordered to pay a fine of $2,000. (We didnt get into the specifics.). Cops under pressure will lie to close a case. Perhaps youre not aware, there was a great deal of evidence of which these documentaries made no mention, as well as misdeeds and incidents of corruption perpetrated by the cops. Those that think that Patricia is innocent are simply groping at straws. The trial was taking so much of my time. The criminal, a crazy with a psychotic crush on a man, the planner a individual with a lot of self esteem and narcissistic charm who can persuade women, was rich thought compared to the individual in this case, and the victim, a woman who saw her life only as a wife and mother and had no other pretensions, and that even if she had threatened the individual that she would leave a few times, she always stayed. False. Flaw in reasoning. Look into it. That is not just a circumstantial case, that is both circumstantial and forensic, and it is pretty air tight. And she will have to answer eventually. Addressing Patricia Prue, Judge Robert Bent said the sentence of life without parole was "fitting" since she was a full participant in the crime. Wright desires to live her last days with her five children and six grandchildren, was in the statement as well. She got 12 months of probation for shoplifting at a Walmart in Lexington, North Carolina. Im sure shes innocent adds nothing other than to tell us your state of mind! Joann would have fought for her life the person that did this would have had marks on them from a fight! Said tried to blame the FBI for not searching for an unknown person, he said, was the real killer. Patricia McCloskey pleaded guilty Thursday to misdemeanor harassment and was fined $2,000. The series was produced by Joe Berlinger, who made the Paradise Lost documentaries, which garnered actor Johnny Depps attention and ultimately helped free the West Memphis Three. The LAPD alleged that Patricias motive was to get Jeromes insurance money, which had a value of $30,000. All my comments have been vetted and approved by this sites organisers so how do you see yourself as the judge of whats acceptable or not? Theres also the matter of a woman who suddenly remembered she saw Joann with another man at a Food Mart store five days after the disappearance. They broke up in 1993. Joanne didnt go missing until December 15, an entire week and a day later. This information was never revealed to Rorrers defence. DA readily agreed they did not belong to Rorrer, was happy to admit they were never submitted for analysis. Instead of presenting hard facts, all I see are words and phrases that are purely speculative.. such as perhaps. Immediately after getting out of prison in the year 2000, Larry wrote a detailed letter stating that he lied about his sisters involvement in the death of her husband. Joann Katrinaks Killer Still Has Innocence Advocates(A Woman Scorned, Forensic Files). To prove it 110% rather than just 99% I dont know why they wouldnt retest the hair fibers etc. Keep in mind that 34 hairs are in custody of the state police, so where are the other 4 hairs? Your email address will not be published. Marissa Suarez, in the matching brown hat and scarf, and Patricia Todisco, in the darker hat, are seen inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6 (images via FBI court filing). On Aug. 31, 2011, at 11 a.m., Wrights family, the Action Committee for Women in Prison, and the FACTS community and supporters gathered in front of Gov. And this was never disclosed to Rorrers Defence. Too bad she got off with just a life sentence. In a million years, she wouldnt do anything to harm that.. Yaser Said was found guilty of killing his two daughters, 18-year-old Amina Said and 17-year-old Sarah Said, in 2008. Patricia Owens, I didnt know about the supposed SIDS death of Rorrers first-born. According to Arletta Wright, Patricia needs to be driven because she has been legally blind since the age of 16. Ive scanned through of all my remarks on this site and nowhere have a seen a single remark that confirms your assertion that Ive been insulting.