#cycling @carltonkirby whatsonreading.com Carlton Kirby True Tales of the Tour de France | What's On Reading While folk littering with gel wrappers is no doubt annoying, is it really up there with fly-tipping? But I do allow people to believe Im always on-site. CK:Its pretty bleak. You have your usual office equipment, coffee machine, and sandwich machine. So, what is Scottish Cycling / British Cycling doing about this? Riders who perhaps finished tenth on a day will be livid that we didnt eulogise about them, but Im sorry, I was talking about the person who finished first. There are no points for each turn. James and Joe catch up with the chosen son of cycling commentary, Carlton Kirby. 35m is 100ft. I don't know the guy but I wish in netherlands we would do it with mart smeets, danny nelissen and herbert dijkstra, who are complete idiots. . The current situation has made things difficult, where previously they would head over to the channel to cover Tour De France, now they sit in their studios and practice social distancing and looking at monitors. Kittel did win stage four, but then Cavendish beat him again on stage six. Learn More, Blog: Abusing other cyclists highlights everything wrong with cycling in Britain, Chris Froome backed by strong Team Sky squad for Vuelta a Espana, Vuelta a Espana 2015 route: five stages which could decide the race, Vuelta a Espana 2015: five stages which could decide the race. I quite like Kirby. Cycling Commentators on Eurosport & GCN 2022 - ProCyclingUK.com Wow, all this over a commentator, so Kirby sees a Quickstep rider and mistakes it for Voeckler - that's funny, it's engaging! There used to be a 35 metre rule which seems to be flouted these days. You are as ill informed as Kirby. Shouldnt be that hard to organise with so many people here able to talk eloquently and intelligently for 4 hours. Yates ended up going out the back of the peloton, losing 1.22. The rest is very monotonous and quite naturally the onus of filling that gap falls on the commentator. And he wasn't wrong. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. This afternoon, I yet again, tolerated his insulting drivel on the Dauphine. Its windowless. Carlton learnt his trade as a commentator in Motorsport and Speedway while the holy trinity of Phil Ligget (ITV), David 'Duffers' Duffield (Eurosport) and Hugh Porter (BBC) had all the cycling tied up between them. You must log in or register to reply here. That is the way it appears. I think its just taking a breath and think about the consequences, he concluded. You are calling the race as you see it on the screen. if many people would do this via twitter it could at least give a sign. Antoine Demoitie tragically died after being hit by a motorbike. While he admits Sagan's explusion for. We have to get him off eurosport. Being a commentator is all about improvisation and Kirby knows this quite well considering his huge range of experience. As just one example, the long list of criticisms he has levelled at Thibault Pinot. Were literally opening up Sean Kellys cranium to learn the nuances of the sport, and he comes out and says which guy is going to go on and win the next day. The actual bones of the job are quite similar. How do you call one of the biggest sporting events on the planet? Riders have lost their ability to race, says LeMond, Nacer Bouhanni handed penalty, fined for shove. Story Time with Carlton Kirby: Mankini's and mechanicals | "The Now it is live pictures going onto blogs, stream TV pictures. Carlton Kirby BikeRadar By using this website, you agree to our use of cookies. It is all well having experience, but at some of the smaller races who are the guys riding these bikes? Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum The blokes an insult to all cyclists. Even once the race itself is over, and the post-analysis is done, theres a second race to get away from the finish line. Doesn't look that pretty, cable tied, very practical. I speak no language other than English. pic.twitter.com/MaRgbFKTet, The Ella Roberta Family Foundation (@rosamund_ElsFdn) March 25, 2019, @emmachamberlain at her soul cycling class. There have always been deaths since the early 1900s from vehicle-related incidents. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast. Having spent over 25 years in the field, he has seen a lot, as many other countless commentators have seen. you can't have it on while doing other things and then return to the screen when it gets interesting because by the time Kirby has noticed many minutes will have passed. He was hinting today that he would be commentating on Paris-Roubaix (just after he said that Froome was 'over-raced' this year), so I'd be grateful if as many people as possible could comment/vote before it is too late: Mmmmm, unfortunately, the suggested replacement is just as clueless, just quieter. He clearly thinks he's the star of the show. why must us cyclists have to tolerate a commentator who has no knowledge of professional cycling. Its the press guys we see more, because of the mechanics of the day. Hes done it four times, and I think he might want to do it again on the Champs-lyses. Carlton Kirby: No matter if youre in a mobile unit at the finish, or in a studio with air conditioning and a coffee machine, youre doing the same thing, the view out the window is just different. The Kirby CODEC will also be called into action as his followers on Twitter will know. All material FarrellyAtkinson (F-At) Limited, Unit 7b Green Park Station BA11JB. This latest incident proves exactly that. In the second episode of Story Time with Carlton Kirby, the Eurosport commentator reads an excerpt from his book (Magic Spanner) about how British cycling caused a seismic change in the. Eurosport cant get away with this !! Commentating during the 2022 Ronde with 222km to go, Kirby says: Aranburu could have finished as high as 5th in Milan-Sanremo, but didnt think it was worth his while so he eased off at the end and came in 13th. One of the worlds most iconic cycling brands appears set to launch an e-bike. Kirby has more than two decades as a. For me Kirby has the key ingredient I need from a commentator. They have produced some merchandise like cycling caps and badges, they get together at Carltons events. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Star names like Sagan getting knocked off and knocked out of races. On the last Vuelta a Espaa, Tinkhoff threatened to pull his team out because two of his riders - one of whom is Peter Sagan - were hit by vehicles. Mark thought it was congratulations, but it was Kittel hitting him on the back in frustration. e-bikes are very much the SUVs of the car world with every manufacturer seemingly keen to add at least one to their range to not miss out. On rest days we circulate to meet with everybody. The Wanty-GroupeGobert rider was air lifted to hospital after the crash yesterday, but thankfully it seems like he's in a stable condition. For me, Carlton is the perfect commentator for the 'early shift' on long, flat grand tour stages. His voice tends to wake me up from my nap when something happens. Kirby's Knowledge and Enthusiasm on the Mic is Unparalleled That doesnt portend his job has not become a whole lot harder. To show no fear is the best skill of all. They seem to think that it is enough to just talk about english speaking riders, or to 'emote' any time there is a crash, or a difficult corner. When youre on-site, even though youre there, youre still watching a monitor, Kirby says. This person has obviously just seen red, Ive got right of way, Im going to go, and you might have right of way technically whether you do or dont is often debatable but it doesnt give you the right to smash someone and potentially kill someone, which is what is going to happen if you run someone off their bike. When Kirby explains the difficult process of commentating on cycling, and the concerns he has, one might want to know how much of that impacts him. All of that is avoidable if you have the right distance and the right protocol in place. His Grand National, Murray Walker shouting in the last 2 kilometres really is unbelievable. Q&A: Eurosport's Carlton Kirby on announcing the Tour de France from Essentially, there needs to be some sort of schooling or protocol coming from the International Cycling Union that has a proficiency test for these guys. ), there is a thread in the Eurosport 'comments and suggestions' forum requesting that he be removed from the roster. Plus the the week's top tech news, in: Flying Tom Pidcock wins Strade Bianche, in: Cyclists call on council to reconsider unsafe diversion, in: Call for Scottish safety portal that would "deliver justice", in: Campaigners: Remove pedestrian vs cyclist conflict, in: Highway Code changes haven't helped cyclists, Near Miss of the Day 853: Driver of lorry urging cyclists to Please take extra care near this vehicle fined for close pass (includes swearing), Continental unveils the "strongest" and "fastest" ever Grand Prix 5000 tyre models, Brompton boss frustrated to be fighting "war of attrition" against rip-off rivals, Remove conflict between cyclists and pedestrians, urge campaigners in wake of manslaughter case, Have bike tech wars turned cycling into Formula 1? Yep, thats my pick. And anybody who has watched one unfold on TV will recognise the frantic speed of the commentary as the race reaches its climax. What is his cycling background ? You could hear a pin drop. Stay tuned! He said from the rider's perspective, motorbikes get far too close to the race. Tel 01225 588855. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. If you're after one, guess that does makethe two grand plus 40 quid a month price tag seem a little fairer A mother from London has launched a petition calling for a second coroner's inquest into the death of her daughter, who passed away at nine years of age in what was originally believed to be an asthma-related case. Whether they be dusty in the summer or wet in the winter, motorcycles are far too dangerous and get far too close to the bikes. Bit harsh, Quigley is a lot more knowledgeable. And suddenly some feel like a part of the race. I'm constantly berating or pointing out the danger of the motorcycle. -"Looks like shit. Tour of Turkey cycling video - 'He's back!' - Mark - Eurosport VN:What difference will people notice in this years Tour broadcast from a normal year, when you and your team are on-site? For no reason. In the early 1990s he became a freelance commentator. Carlton kirby - has to go !! | Cyclingnews Forum Absolutely mad. Well, Ill tell you: It makes your view of the race verifiable when youre there. When all the commentators from different nationalities are inside the same studio room, it is no longer the same as before, remarks Kirby, in a monotonous tone. Quite brilliant and gutsy from Tom. "In tennis you never talk through a point because the crowd don't. In certain sports, you have to respect the action, and then you comment on it. They will tell you, Yes, so-and-so is looking really mentally fatigued, or, they are saying, Hes getting very aggressive in the peloton and weve had a word with the team, that is all great information. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport AndKirby wouldnt have it any other way, even if there are those who dont always appreciate what goes into calling a Tour de France stage. Cycling is a sport where there are no time limits and there are no constant action-packed sequences to speak about. As a small example, he started talking to Magnus Backstedt about tyre widths the other day ("weren't you the 27 mm guy?") Ive just turned Catalunya on and hes already come out with I think he fell victim to his agent, so now hes at x team. Thus concentrating becomes a difficult job for a commentator. Ive been up the Galibier. Well then I propose a CN forum audio livestream for the tour de france. Where is the central body that has its own rules of discipline and rules of engagement that respect distance protocol and passing protocol under the race director? A close study of the final 20 kilometres follows, picking out key hazardslike pinch points, street furniture and likely attack points, before the repeating the study in the car alongside King Kelly as the pair make their way to the commentary point at the stage finish. It is amusing that explaining this is futile, he remarks. 27/8/22: Stage 7 of the Vuelta, Herrada wins the sprint and has his arm in the air in celebration. It is guys sitting on a motorbike who pull up alongside a cyclist and say 'how are you doing?'. The unrelenting, inane chatter (did any of us want to know that his wife had their third child by caesarean section? What a load of rubbish - Team Sky Fan !! Theyd often stop too Euskaltel-Euskadi were one of the most common for that, theyd roll to the front, let everyone know it wasnt an attack and then ride up the road to briefly chat to family! The road curved, but it was nothing to concern one's self with. All of this stuff adds to the vrit of the broadcast, and its stuff you cannot get in a studio in London. The prodigious British riderTao Geoghegan Hart laid into Kirby's"outrageous claims", and Owain Doull also chipped in to describe Kirby as a "proper muppet". Mark is already the greatest sprinter there has ever been. I have been speaking to (former cyclist and Eurosport expert) Sean Kelly about it at various races, and we have both had hold your breath moments. While cycling commentator Carlton Kirby and his teammates would normally head across the channel for the Tour de France, the recent situation suggests he will be covering the 2020 edition from the Eurosport studios in London. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In - Radio Days Events There are several fan forums that constantly try to have him removed from Eurosport and even made a Carlton Kirby petition their demands on the grounds of inane chatter, terrible jokes, and unnecessary screaming. In their eyes, he is one of the worst cycling commentators. Eurosport's Carlton Kirby and cycling legend Sean Kelly reacted like the viewers at home - at first incredibly concerned, then mightily relieved. Among an awful lot of distractions, as Carlton Kirby explains, commentating on cycling is an arduous process. I changed to German commentary on eurosport international today I was so mad. We caught up with Kirby to learn what is gained for the telecast and what is lost from these two very different broadcasting scenarios. I think it is just individual race directors who decide who gets to ride these bikes. Kirby says he opens the Tours road book (the bible for riders and media alike) first and foremost, having to change all of the notes to match his commentary notes and the on-screen graphics counting down the kilometres, rather than up as the book does. 4th in last year's Giro d'Italia. Kirby laughs. He is thinking Champs Elysees. There are many great cycling commentators around at the moment, Im afraid Kirby isnt one of them. Carlton Kirby: 'Joo Almeida, who won't worry anyone in the General Classification'. Eurosport's lead cycling commentator Carlton Kirby has called for action to regulate the role of motor vehicles in the sport following the tragic death of Belgium's Antoine Demoitie, who was. Rob Hatch is apparently also good but he doesnt do very much that I've seen. Baseless. But he's British and that's all that matters to Kirby. Kirby is not uncomfortable with the spurt of social media and the exponential increase of criticism that has gone alongside with it. I usually increase the pace especially on a sprint day to match the peloton, Kirby admits. Carlton Kirby: What inspired Chris Froome's golden era - Eurosport Thats because the Tours largest broadcasters are staying at home due to the COVID-19 pandemic, rather than broadcasting the race on-site in France. It's garnering quite a few sarcastic responses on Twitter Yep, I regularly cycle to MacDonalds, get a load of food, then cycle to the off license, get some beer, and then cycle to a lay by or car park and spread it around the place. Without wishing to be too disparaging to Mr. Kirby, I dont have Eurosport or the ability to watch cycling live, so I have to make do with highlights. Carlton Kirby is one of the successful names in the industry, recently had been a topic of gossip for good and bad reasons. And thats where comes the utterly significant role of the commentator who not only has to fill the huge time span but needs to stay alert at all times. 14 Aug 2020. Bridport cycles. It is not just the press core looking for pictures for the following day. Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on Stitcher There are no gaps you might shut up for five seconds or so to listen to the crowd, but thats it.. There is no editing process, except between the brain and the larynx. Thus, the commentary that you hear wont come from the finish line, but rather from some television studio thousands of miles away. Before Kirby hits the airwaves, he touchesbase with Eurosport HQ in Paris,and then its time to take to the microphone. Whenever I watch an anglophone stream online because there is no other way for me to watch a race I have to think of the HIMYM episode where Barney goes to get Robin from Canada and, looking at the "funny" Canadian dollars, says: "It's like you want us to make fun of you". Advertising, commercial: sales [at] road.cc Its a massive operation. theres nowhere like ENOUGH cycling on tv. You don't need to be that close to the riders to get snaps. Nobody but nobody doesnt sprint for 5th at the end of a Monument. To know that, you simply have to do a Google Search and you will know why. About - Carlton Kirby There has to be some kind of distance applied and minimal standards of what is needed. Eurosport is a group of pay television networks in Europe and parts of Asia. He also never tells you who the riders on screen are - and if he does, he's usually wrong. My primary issue with Carlton Kirby is that he doesn't commentate on what is happening (he rambles whatever is inside his head). Get access to more than 30 brands, premium video, exclusive content, events, mapping, and more. Whilst im not a great fan of Carlton Kirkby I very much doubt I could talk for between 1 and 5 hours without descending into complete nonsense from time to time. You can get every picture you need from in front of the peloton. Listen to Carlton Kirby's Cycling Lock-In on TuneIn Info-wise, being on-site is amazing.. but the bike was nowhere to be found!" People were saying track preparation knocks you back for the sprint because it is a different form of physicality that is needed. You must invest in an alarm upgrade to BT Redcare. Anyone but dreary Declan Quigley please! Simon Yates drops back to the Peloton in the last 2km - Carlton Kirby: 'Yates has decided this isn't worth the candle' - i.e. Ive fallen off the Galibier. But it is also true that there isnt a dearth of genuine fans of Kirby who really appreciate his vast knowledge on the field. Harmon's attitude can best be described as 'wogs begin at Calais'. To cycling fans, Carlton Kirby's voice has become synonymous with the sport, having become an integral part of British Eurosport's race coverage. It was a dreadfully high price to pay in my opinion to high but the suffering couldnt go on. Such things impact ones reputation a lot, and there is no way around it. Colnago is using social media to tease the arrival of its new E64 Performance, which well go out on a limb and guess is the companys attempt to tap into the rapidly growing e-bike market. One example of his commentary, from 11/3/21 Tirreno-Adriatico: Carlton Kirby: 'Yates is the heart and mind of this breakaway group'. You can do that by clicking one of these links - TAKES 30 SECONDS: https://help.eurosport.com/hc/en-gb/requests/new, https://help.globalcyclingnetwork.com/hc/en-gb/requests. Ive gotten drunk on the Galibier and been evacuated off the Galibier. I do love the sport because its a crescendo sport. In the mountains, when you have say four significant peaks to climb, the day tells itself and often all you have to do is call it as it happens. Eurosport is transmitting the same amount of races as any standard european tv channel - go to Italy where it is their number 2 sport next to football - they dont struggle for professional sports commentators. Carlton Kirby is a sports commentator who is most known for his work commentating on the Tour de France. Ive done so much and been so many places that I mostly have all of them embedded in my head. Please enter your email so we can keep you updated with news, features and the latest offers. I make notes of the corners, pinch points, danger points, acceleration points, attack points all of those things.. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. Eurosport will never get rid of Carlton Kirby, he receives so much fan-mail that it will far out way any negative feedback they get from him. CK:I think not many people will notice. Always the hardest and most challenging role in such types of games is of a cycling commentator. I remember being impressed during the Giro at his ability to identify riders. Le point sur la situation de Yoann Offredo. Nah, Harmon is clued up. From the Eurosports studios in London, covering the tour is not the same as waiting at the finish line. New Eurosport presentation team for cycling's Grand Tours It easy to forget that before this tour Mark Cavendish, the greatest of all great sprinters, had never beaten Marcel Kittel in a head-to-head. Next time you watch, ask yourself how many of his critiques are aimed against non-Anglophone riders. Antoine Demoitie was tragically killed by a motorcyle at the age of 25. 2023 Eurosport, a Warner Bros. Thanks to all who have signed. We have a quiet conversation about who is going to win today. Theres an awful lot of distractions to keep on top of, so if you happen to be looking at your notes when somebody has a moment and you dont see it, its not your fault., Kirby laughs. And then on day one on Utah beach..boom..Cavendish stuns the previously unbeatable German racer. Theyre the best stages, and the most exciting ones, but often as a commentator the days you take the most pride in are actually the ones where absolutely sod all has happened! And this sort of meaningless, demented jabber is not at all unusual I could have chosen many examples just from today. At dinner, you gather around the table and argue the hell out of it, and thats a big thing. We get to see our own output with our team interviewing the riders. Live blog: "outrageous claims" - Tao Geoghegan Hart lays into Eurosport commentator Carlton Kirby, cyclists blamed for countryside litter - Twitter responds, Colnago e-bike, Jason Kenny, Jeremy Vine on close-passes, TdY teams, Peloton baby + more. How much longer do the cycling public have to suffer the idiotic commentary from Carlton Kirby ?? You cant please everybody and as a commentator thats something you have to get to grips with. I often moan about Kirby myself, but I don't. We have seen far too much of it - near collisions as much as actual collisions over the past few years. A new bike is coming very soon! Pure invention; based on nothing. Its not something thats learned, or something you can prepare for. And, one can understand the enthusiasm that has kept him going despite the setbacks and even criticism from people. All rights reserved. Stig Broeckx avoids serious injury after being hit by motorbike. or maybe you,re a relative ?? You sit there, its often quite quiet, and you get brought an exotic meal like a guacamole sandwich. I've just discovered, after following a tweet that Orla Chennaoui had re-tweeted, that the esteemed Mr Kirby has blocked me on Twitter. When Cavendish won again on stage 14, Kittel just fell to pieces emotionally. They basically work on the principle that people watching cycling in english are only interested in english speaking riders. Utterly self-absorbed: he had already decided who'd won. and clearly was totally clueless. The demands of media and multimedia these days make it more of a serious problem. Id love to see this Eurosport commentator substantiate even 1% of the outrageous claims he makes. The commentators day doesnt juststart when the racing does, with research and planning underwayas soon as breakfast is taken. Most races have one unit but the Tour de France has four double-decker units. Its the constant attempts at humour, then the giggling at his own in-jokes that has me reaching for the mute button. The breaks going to go up the road, theyre going to be allowed anything up to 15 minutes of an advantage and everyone else is just having a chat including us., All the other commentators from all the other nations and all their information are in the same room, so you often get people saying: Have you heard this?, with loads of things to share. Don't miss a moment from Paris-Roubaix and Unbound Gravel, to the Giro dItalia, Tour de France, Vuelta a Espaa, and everything in between when you but the bike was nowhere to be found!" Eurosport commentator. During a long interview, the legendary veteran commentator of Eurosports shares some of his knowledge about the job. There are people who love what I do, and others who hate it, he admits. All the news from the site and beyond as we start a new week, Thomas De Gendt bosses Volta a Catalunya opener and solos into 3-minute overall lead. The word count for me at the end is almost blurred.. That is because like most hacks they are too arrogant to do any research and preparation. Marcel Kittel gesticulates as Mark Cavendish wins stage 14 of the Tour de France ahead of Peter Sagan, Stage six finish: Cavendish edges Kittel again in thrilling finale, WATCH: Moment Cavendish finds out he has won. He is now only four short. 2008present unless otherwise stated. I can't understand why Eurosport need to use him when they gave at least four other knowledgeable commentators, even without Harmon. Controversial! The sights and sounds of the race and the attention of aptitude in an ample pressroom can renounce some valuable chunks for a commentator. Tao Geoghegan Hart (@taogeoghegan) March 25, 2019. Story Time with Carlton Kirby - How British cycling went - Eurosport She talks about the background to the petition, which you can sign here, in this video. Can you at least extend our premium subscriptions so we can play all races, until you fix the issue? Maybe it's because he doesn't ride a bike himself? Its the art of illusion. That is common in France and Belgium with a dedicated roving reporter from the race roving all over the peloton and having a chat. Yeah he does. Painting a verbal picture of a five-hour race is stream of consciousness, and to be able to do that effectively, you just need to be there. Those are definitely the days when you earn your corn. I just wish we had Liggett and Kelly doing the Grand Tours. carlton kirby leaves eurosport 2021 - nehantech.com PLEASE CONTACT EUROSPORT/GCN INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL AS SIGNING, BECAUSE THAT WILL PROBABLY HAVE A GREATER EFFECT. He threw the toys out of the pram because his head is scrambled by these defeats. Win! A football match lasts for hardly ninety minutes, a rugby match is over in eighty minutes, whilst a basketball game takes only thirty-eight minutes to finish. This year alone, we had a Sky rider getting his elbow clipped by a security vehicle when he went for a gap when none existed. After moving to 30 Tour de France stage wins with four rousing victories that has shattered Marcel Kittel on this year's Tour, Eurosport's voice of cycling Carlton Kirby tells Desmond Kane why he .
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